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    by sharkymouth

    I can't track down a copy of this anywhere online in the UK. Does anyone know if there are any more copies on the way?

    Cheers!

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    by Ballyman91

    sharkymouth wrote:

    I can't track down a copy of this anywhere online in the UK. Does anyone know if there are any more copies on the way?

    Cheers!


    I am in exactly the same position as Stephen. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    by furtherbum

    Looks like most US game stores are also out of stock on this great title.

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    by Ballyman91

    So i'm super keen to buy this game but am really struggling to get a hold of it. I'm quite new to board gaming and this is the first time that i've tried to buy a game that is difficult to get a hold of.

    I was just wondering what the procedure was basically and how I could get my hands on this great game.

    I emailed a British board gaming site and they said that they suspected that the game was out of print again.

    This lead me to wonder simply how it works when this happens. Do lookout make a big batch, ship it around the world and then when that's sold out start a new print line and start the process again?

    Do people know how long this usually takes. A massive thank you to anyone that has read this far. Anyone's help is greatly appreciated.

    Bally

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    by sirjeyhmis

    I think it's popular enough that you'll be able to get your hands on a copy before too long. :)
    I can't really comment on the state of it being available in Europe though, being from over seas. :( I know that's not very helpful; sorry.

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    by Karlsen

    Ballyman91 wrote:

    This lead me to wonder simply how it works when this happens. Do lookout make a big batch, ship it around the world and then when that's sold out start a new print line and start the process again?

    That's pretty much the case assuming that there is demand for enough copies to justify the expense of a new print run. This is why some games don't get reprinted, or don't get reprinted for quite a while.

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    by ldsdbomber

    there are loads of copies in the marketplace, if you want it badly enough, several are in Europe.

    Also, check out the people trading it, there are probably several in the UK that you could geekmail and make an offer with money or trade

    I would imagine at some point it might be reprinted as it's such a popular game

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    by tel999



    Shiregames might be getting some in this week:

    [q=Within the Shiregames newsletter young Mr Fisk]Déjà vu time, as next week we really do expect to see copies of the Feudality Expansion and most of the last remaining copies anywhere in the World of Le Havre (before the Z-Man Games reprint, that is). If these things don't appear next week, I think we can assume they are lost at sea.

    http://www.shiregames.com/

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    by Padish

    davypi wrote:

    Padish wrote:

    but I've gotten a feel from these forums that it's pretty standard to constantly scout for buildings to buy from the offers.
    Where exactly from? As a strategic supplement, maybe, but not as main strategy. As others have alluded to, money is too difficult to come by to be spending on buildings. There are only five early game buildings worth thinking about buying:


    I couldn't find a thread to support my memory. I read these Le Havre forums a couple of years ago when I got introduced to the game and just started to read these again now that I got my own copy of Le Havre. I have a vague memory of some threads that had posts indicating that buying buildings (before shipping stuff) is a standard play, but either I misunderstood those posts or these posts never really existed.

    Anyway, thanks for all the replies. They show that our play group's playing style is pretty normal when we don't buy many buildings. Fishery/Sawmill/Charcoal Kiln seem to be the best buildings to build/sell to finance an early ship along with grabbing the franc offer, but apart from that, I think we are going to let the francs pile up (it's no better than food unless you get most of your feeding from ships or have gathered a pile of food by other means) and use Joinery only on a rare occasion.

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    by ldsdbomber

    I often buy the clay mound at 2 francs if its covering a building I want to build and/or use

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    by Ponton

    ldsdbomber wrote:

    I often buy the clay mound at 2 francs if its covering a building I want to build and/or use


    FTFY

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    by Ballyman91

    tel999 wrote:



    Shiregames might be getting some in this week:

    [q=Within the Shiregames newsletter young Mr Fisk]Déjà vu time, as next week we really do expect to see copies of the Feudality Expansion and most of the last remaining copies anywhere in the World of Le Havre (before the Z-Man Games reprint, that is). If these things don't appear next week, I think we can assume they are lost at sea.


    http://www.shiregames.com/

    Massive thanks to everyone for the help. I knew that there were a few copies out there, it's just I haven't found any within a reasonable price i.e under £50. They're all at around 80-100 quid.

    I have contacted shire games and hope to hear back from them soon.

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    by askimbey

    @Thunkd

    The loan jujitsu you speak of is actually why I visited this thread as I was a little confused on taking loans. I was thinking of playing with a house rule that you can also take out loans to visit buildings. It is absolutely ridiculous that you can be penalized for having enough to feed whoever it is you are feeding and that it can be beneficial to not have enough to feed workers.

    Here is the perfect example: In a game last night, Green had 2 gold and no food and a 4 food phase was coming up right after my action. I visited his Abbatoir which meant I had to give him 2 gold entrance fee. He actually made me check the rules to see if he could waive the 2 gold entrance fee, a totally ridiculous request except that taking the gold would make it so on his next turn he just couldn't visit a building because he would have no gold (instead of 2 gold and a loan if I hadn't visited his abbatoir).

    Is anyone else frustrated with the loan rule?

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    by ldsdbomber

    Ponton wrote:

    ldsdbomber wrote:

    I oftentry to buy the clay mound at 2 francs if its covering a building I want to build and/or use and if the missus hasn't already snaffled it


    FTFY


    :)

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    by Thunkd

    askimbey wrote:

    Is anyone else frustrated with the loan rule?


    The loan jijitsu is one of the things that makes the game challenging.

    askimbey wrote:

    Here is the perfect example: In a game last night, Green had 2 gold and no food and a 4 food phase was coming up right after my action. I visited his Abbatoir which meant I had to give him 2 gold entrance fee. He actually made me check the rules to see if he could waive the 2 gold entrance fee, a totally ridiculous request except that taking the gold would make it so on his next turn he just couldn't visit a building because he would have no gold (instead of 2 gold and a loan if I hadn't visited his abbatoir).

    This is one of the things you have to keep in mind when playing Le Havre. This was fairly predictable because he should have been able to see that you needed food and had cattle. The more interesting situation would be where you did something unexpected to give him the gold so that he couldn't build next turn, especially if that allowed you to swoop in and build it instead. It's these types of calculations that make Le Havre a fascinating multiplayer game.

    I guess you could house rule it... but I think it would be neutering the game a little and making it too easy. I mean you could house rule it where you don't need food either, right? But what would be the point of the game then? If you want to make an easy version, you're free to... but other people play the real game and have mastered the loan mechanics, it's doable. So if you enjoy the "lite" version and you're never going to play this outside your game group, then go for it. But you're losing something by doing it.

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    by turbothy

    askimbey wrote:

    Is anyone else frustrated with the loan rule?


    No, it's just you.

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    by Thunkd

    It's available as an app on iOS. So while it might not be the best experience of the game, if you have an ipad you could play a game of it. I've never used an ipad to play a game with a group in person, but I suppose it could work.

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    by Ballyman91

    Thunkd wrote:

    It's available as an app on iOS. So while it might not be the best experience of the game, if you have an ipad you could play a game of it. I've never used an ipad to play a game with a group in person, but I suppose it could work.


    Haha thanks. Actually buying the app is what has made me want to pick up a hard copy of the game so much.

    Massive thank you to tel999. Shire games have emailed me saying they are getting in a shipment and will notify me when it's in so I can order a copy.

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    by Neuronaut

    The US online retailers (Funagain, Coolstuff, Amazon) are now out as well. Given how awesome the iOS app is, this is extremely disappointing.

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    by testcranker

    Neuronaut wrote:

    The US online retailers (Funagain, Coolstuff, Amazon) are now out as well. Given how awesome the iOS app is, this is extremely disappointing.


    The latest version of the iOs app is bugged and won't allow a player to combine AI bots with other players in an online game.

    The "real" hardcopy of the physical game is by comparison a very reliable investment.

    I'm suprised to hear it's not avaialable, could it be that the sucess of the iOS app had dried up supply ? Who knows.

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