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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by sfox It isn't possible to win against a competent opponent without taking loans. The cost to avoid loans early in the game is far higher than the cost to pay them off late game even when accounting...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by sfoxdavypi wrote:My usual "no loan" wins involve building and selling the sawmill for money and then hitting the joinery. With the resulting cash, you can outright purchase a wooden boat within...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Thunkdsfox wrote:It isn't possible to win against a competent opponent without taking loans.That is untrue.

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Deep SilverThunkd wrote:gmpearce wrote:If she seriously wants to take as few loans as possible, then she should be aiming at building ships, with her intended payoff being shipping line late in the...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by jhagen1908 I've had a couple 3-player long games with the original loan rules where I scored nearly 300 (294, 289) and won against strong competition by going no-loan.What they had in common:* I...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by viddy There's a big difference between loans in Le Havre and begging cards in Agricola: Loans are tools that can be used to make progress, whereas begging cards are penalties for not having already...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Thunkdviddy wrote:Just like in real life, a loan is good to take out if it will get you ahead in the long run, which a loan in Le Havre will almost always do.And just like in real life you're...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by mjacobsca My game group seemed convinced loans were the only way to win the game, and hence soured on it. I agree winning without loans is possible, but it really depends on how the cards come out,...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Hierarchy to ship purchases?

by testcranker Maybe there is some confusion about the spread of cost to buy and point value for victory purposes ? Other than that, there are no options per se, as others have pointed out. You can...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Ship building

by testcranker It's an interesting question but when I play, we always interpret "build" to exclude ship construction. I do get into some arguements over this interpretation, but I usually lay the...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: board game vs ios version

by testcrankerDrumPhil wrote:riastradh wrote:Is there not a red X to the left of the game name that should allow you to delete existing games?Yes, there are red Xs, but nothing happens when I tap...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by testcranker Seriously, I'll take an opponent who refuses loans over one who adapts as necessary every time. Loans are game elements, to be used and optimized like any other game element. If you...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: How to get money to buy buildings and ships?

by testcranker Just another thought, many times I will buy a bulding in the queue which is in front of another building that I want to build, so I can clear the way and build it.It is possible in this...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by daveshaerf Thanks for all the responses!Yeah, I am mostly in agreement with the ethos of being malleable, strategically speaking. Loan cards are a key component of the game, why deprive yourself of...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Evilest DaveDeep Silver wrote:Thunkd wrote:gmpearce wrote:If she seriously wants to take as few loans as possible, then she should be aiming at building ships, with her intended payoff being...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by jauggy I don't know about 2P but I know its possible in 3P. With a no-loans strat you want a wooden ship as fast as possible as it is quite efficient. Typically it will be bought because wharf comes...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by LSMB Of course you can win without loans....but not using loans means you will just be giving up an important tool in the game that your opponents will be using.Mention to your GF how forgiving the...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by ThunkdLSMB wrote:Of course you can win without loans....but not using loans means you will just be giving up an important tool in the game that your opponents will be using.But every turn you'll be...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by LSMBThunkd wrote:LSMB wrote:Of course you can win without loans....but not using loans means you will just be giving up an important tool in the game that your opponents will be using.But every turn...

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