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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by farmergiles It's easy, you simply ensure that you can't afford to feed yourself either with food or money. So simply collect resources, buy buildings with excess money quick or use it to pay others...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by grant5farmergiles wrote:It's easy, you simply ensure that you can't afford to feed yourself either with food or money. So simply collect resources, buy buildings with excess money quick or use it to...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Daedalus insert and 2017 version

by chipmafia Yes, it helps with setup quite a bit. Everything is right there together, and if you set up the wood card boxes correctly, it could take as few as 5 minutes to start.

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by davypifarmergiles wrote:I've been testing the theory that you don't need a bunch of ships to win and can manage with any loans or ships. Now after many games, I can see that even though you can...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Daedalus insert and 2017 version

by apertoteschipmafia wrote:Yes, it helps with setup quite a bit. Everything is right there together, and if you set up the wood card boxes correctly, it could take as few as 5 minutes to start.Great!...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by farmergiles Every other game treats a loan as bad hence most people will approach the game thinking that. Now I know they are an easy exploit but this has destroyed the game now as I'll never worry...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Ponton Luke, loans are not your problem. Not wanting to get a single ship is. Ships are crucial in this game. I wouldn't have expected any less from a game about a harbor.You can win without taking...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Daedalus insert and 2017 version

by chipmafia Yes. The most important part of card setup in this game is to make sure you pack them up well.For instance, we only play 2p. So, the cards are ready for a 2p game. We just need to unpack....

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by grant5farmergiles wrote:Every other game treats a loan as badWell that's just objectively false.hence most people will approach the game thinking that.Another bad assumption.Now I know they are an...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by farmergiles I don't class debt as a good thing, but I'm an accountant so that's normal! :P There's "using" them and then there's deliberately ensuring you take 8-10 of the things without any concern...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Daedalus insert and 2017 version

by apertoteschipmafia wrote:We still shuffle the buildings and sort themOh, that was the part I was looking forward to streamline :-( Although being realistic, I do not see how it could be done.

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by grant5farmergiles wrote:I don't class debt as a good thing, but I'm an accountant so that's normal! As an accountant, I'd expect you to recognize debt as neither inherently good nor bad, but rather...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by Ponton Just for the record, even the most valuable Luxury Liner (38 francs, IIRC) can only "cancel" 5 loans, which are worth -7 francs unless you pay them back for 5 francs each (which you cannot do...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by tumorous Okay now meet me over in the Agricola forum, I want to talk about winning the base game without family growth. (Sex is bad, right?)

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by farmergiles I think he had 8 but so many ships and buildings as he didn't have to waste time on food that he more than made up for the point loss. A couple of 25+ point shipping turns and we just...

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by LSMBfarmergiles wrote:Every other game treats a loan as bad hence most people will approach the game thinking that. Now I know they are an easy exploit but this has destroyed the game now as I'll...

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Daedalus insert and 2017 version

by chipmafia Well, the nature of the game is a variable startup. Since we only ever play 2p, our setup is the same each time (save randomizing the town buildings and specials) If you had varying player...

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Thread: Le Havre:: General:: Half Price Le Havre on UK Amazon Heads Up

by Ingulphus Hello all - just bought Le Havre (Mayfair ed) off Amazon for £26.76 including postage. Right now there's one left, so get it while you can!

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Half Price Le Havre on UK Amazon Heads Up

by torocra Great deal - just placed my order

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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

by sirgalinfarmergiles wrote:I played it more for the tradesmen aspect. I'm going to focus on fishing, or baking or mining steel or tanning hides etc. basically the interesting stuff. Shipping to me...

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