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Thread: Le Havre:: General:: Le Harve or Agricola?

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by ron42na

I posted this on the Agricola forum also...I'd like to get input from people in both camps if possible.

I'm planning to buy one of these for my gaming group, and I'm looking for advice on which one to get. A little background on the group...

One person has severe ADHD, one has pretty severe AP - so getting the game that's least prone to AP is good for my group. (early AP is especially bad)

The group is a mix of hardcore gamers (me and the AP person), and mid to light gamers. For the lighter gamers, they prefer minimal direct conflict between players - but some conflict is ok. (ex: Settlers, Lemmings, and Dominion are favorites for everyone, and Dominant Species and Eclipse are ok for all but person...Steam was borderline ok for everyone). I'm ok with getting a game that works for all but the really conflict averse person (since they are only there 50% of the time).

Lighter euro's like Ticket to Ride, Settlers and Carcasonne have gone over well, but Power Grid was nixed by the very conflict averse player after a few tries. (interestingly, everyone liked Titan)

A couple points I think are important for my group are; (1) strategy variability, and (2) recover-ability from early mistakes. For the strategy variability, I want to ensure whichever one I get has a lot of different ways to win. For the recover-ability, I want to ensure players don't get totally screwed if they make a couple early mistakes. (or if that is the case, be easy to avoid getting totally screwed with a few tips before we play)

Thanks!

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