by sneakypete21
Si Fei wrote:
Le Havre realistically takes 2 hours or more, so it is probably out. It is also harder to learn than any of the games you have listed.
Granted, Le Havre is not a short game (unless you play the short variant) but we play 2p games in 2 hours or less sometimes. It's not difficult to learn; believe me, I'm not good at learning complex games. It is difficult to play well. I suppose Agricola is somewhat the same; I think Caverna is arguably the most complex in terms of learning rules but the easiest on a round-by-round basis.