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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by grant5

Badigel wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering, why such a price tag?

Do you maybe want to give a little context to this question?

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by Badigel

Expensive when I compare it to other games which I find similar like Trajan, Bruges, Concordia etc.
Le havre price seems very static at around 50$

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by grant5

Badigel wrote:

Expensive when I compare it to other games which I find similar like Trajan, Bruges, Concordia etc.
Le havre price seems very static at around 50$


A very very quick search of CSI shows all the games you listed to be within a couple dollars of each other. Where are you looking at prices?

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by Pugnax555

There are a lot of ships in there. As anyone who's played the game knows, ships aren't cheap.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by Badigel

grant5 wrote:

Badigel wrote:

Expensive when I compare it to other games which I find similar like Trajan, Bruges, Concordia etc.
Le havre price seems very static at around 50$


A very very quick search of CSI shows all the games you listed to be within a couple dollars of each other. Where are you looking at prices?


Yes. But all of them can be got for a good price from now and then.

Le Havre price seems very fixed from the impression I got.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by turbothy

Okay, so what you're really asking is "why is Le Havre never on sale when other games I find comparable are?"

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Solo Scoring In Le Havre

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by shepsii

I just played my first solo game (2nd overall game). I thought I did really well. I scored 178 :shake:

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by DaRuleyman

Except for the Cardhaus Sale at the beginning of the summer when it sold for $42.99. That's when I got my copy. If you really want it, it is worth the price. If I had to pay full price for it, I would with no question.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Solo Scoring In Le Havre

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by shepsii

I got up to 225 this time.

I thought I was quite efficient last time, but on my first play I was going to the supply offers too quickly.

Something like grain now I believe should be left for as long as possible. Ideally you do maybe two visits to one out of fish/cattle/grain and 1 visit to the others near the end - and rely on this for late game food. Cattle as the last round feeder as great as its 3x and brings hides/leather into the game for shipping.

I love a mid game grain grab, as the conversion into bread gets you some francs - mid game francs I am finding to be quite useful to pay off loans and start buying buildings.

I am being incredibly resourceful with the resources I pick up, and planning very neatly to the correct number of turns to ship out steel at the end.

I would say the things I'm doing most wrong right now is trying to build too much. Late game when you have francs buying buildings is essentially a free turn as the francs you pay count again at the end anyway, AND it prevents you having to pay the building costs. I think I had maybe 3 visits to the clay offer/wood offer/brick factory with a pile of francs in front of me which in retrospect is stupid.

Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: Winning without loans?

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by David Grabiner

I have played a few times, and have won with three different loan situations. My first game, with four players, I never took a loan because I fed myself with grain and cattle. My second game, with three players, I went into debt on the third round, went all the way up to five loans, and paid off my last loan as the game ended. I have also won by feeding myself most of the time but taking out a single loan for flexibility (for example, choosing to use my food to enter the Construction Firm and build two buildings, rather than save it for eating).

So the key principle is that you shouldn't be committed to either taking loans or not taking them from the start If your strategy gives you food at a constant rate (you own Fishery and Smokehouse, or the Feedlot requires you to slaughter cattle regularly), you can stay out of debt. If you are going to get more food in the long run (waiting to bake a lot of bread or slaughter a lot of cows at once, picking up resources to build ships later), you can go heavily into debt.

Thread: Le Havre:: Rules:: Harvest Question

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by schnel

I apologize if this has been asked before but I searched for an answer and couldn't find one.

The instructions seem to suggest that the harvest is the first thing that happens at the end of the round. But a couple of videos I've watched make it seems as if it's the last thing to happen.

Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Harvest Question

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by gillum

The rules are correct, of course!

End of round order:

1. Harvest (if there is one).
2. Feeding.
3. Town constructs buildings (if that happens this round).
4. Round card turned over to create a new ship card.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Harvest Question

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by Raujour

That way you get your grain and livestock before you feed - not that it matters much.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Harvest Question

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by PauloSantoro

But please note that the order in this case does not matter: you can't use cattle and grain to feed.

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Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Harvest Question

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by davypi

gillum wrote:

1. Harvest (if there is one).
2. Feeding.
3. Town constructs buildings (if that happens this round).
4. Round card turned over to create a new ship card.


The easy way to remember this is to simply resolve the card from top down, then left to right, just like you read a page in a book. Harvest is at the top of the card and thus happens first. When you get to the line corresponding to your player count, the feeding is the left most icon on that row, followed by the icon for the type of building you build (if any).

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Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Why is the game so expensive?

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by Magicarl3974

As someone who has worked in manufacturing I can assure you that these products are not as cheap to produce as people think. Tools have to be made to cut out the chits and other components within a game and these can be expensive. Take into consideration all the other aspects of producing these; ink, board, adhesive, creating the box, artwork, rules to be produced, electric, wages for the staff working in the factory, the cost of boxing up the product for shipping, cost of shipping around the world it is a large process and every part costs. Add on top of this the fact that everyone has to make a profit too and you have your price. Considering what you get in the box, the price is reasonable and in line with other similar games.

That all being said, just buy the game and any other game you want and ENJOY playing it. It's the experience not the cost. Also consider computer games, people don't think twice about paying the price but once you've played it you're done. At least with a boardgame for similar price you can keep playing and enjoying.

Enjoy!
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