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Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: I really don't know how to play this game

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by ARCentral

I never played the physical game either and initially played the game on my iTouch-had a pretty tough time of it. When I got an iPad, I tried the game again, the large screen made a big difference. I also did some online research about the game which helped too. It is one of my favorites now. Have you tried Agricola on iOS?

Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: I really don't know how to play this game

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by Daybreak

The tutorial is completely useless. It tells you to do things, but gives you no idea why. After playing through it twice I had no idea how to play at all: buy this, build that, feed your people, always with the food.

Then I just dove in and did stuff, and saw what happened at the end. I only kind of sort of paid attention to what the others were doing; I mainly looked at what I could do and where it led me.

After a few plays, it became clear what to do. Your goal in Le Havre is to accumulate wealth, by whatever means are available to you. That can include building buildings (and occasionally buying them), building ships, and shipping goods out for profit (or using other buildings to sell goods). It all clicked for me when I used the Shipping Line for my last action and shipped out a tonne of goods for a mountain of Francs, easily winning the game.

So, if I were to redo the tutorial I would put in some mention of an end game objective. The Shipping Line is an obvious one, but so is accumulating lots of buildings (and bonus buildings). Maybe you'll just make coal and coke like the guy above said, or maybe you'll make a bunch of iron and steel and finish with two luxury liners.

I haven't really figured out the nuanced strategies yet, but now that I know what I'm doing I really enjoy it. In fact, I ordered the physical game to have in addition to my iOS version, even though I don't have the time or group to play it with. Love it that much.

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Thread: Le Havre:: General:: I don't like Agricola.... should i buy Le Havre?

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by Dungeonlord

Hi everyone
I'm considering buying le Havre but i'm a bit on the fence. I already own agricola(similar in some aspect) and i've been quite disappointed mainly by the fact that i don't feel like i'm specializing in something but rather doing a bit of everything in order to get point (have couple of sheeps, enough family members, different kind of crops etc.). I don't mind the game but it feels samy.
With this regards how does Le Havre "perform"? Are there multiple paths to victory or it is always about "shipping that steel" (like i've seen in some review).
I'm curious to hear what you think about it?

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: I don't like Agricola.... should i buy Le Havre?

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by PlatinaD

I also am not a big fan of Agricola but I do enjoy La Havre.

If you plan on playing mostly solo or with 2 players it will tend to feel rather samey. But as you get higher player counts you see more different buildings and I've seen players win without even a single ship. Also the special buildings really change the game from play to play.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: I don't like Agricola.... should i buy Le Havre?

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by dklx3

Agricola and Le Havre are very different. I love both. Liking/or not one of them does not mean you will like/or not the other.

To be fair, they are both complex Euro style games with resource management.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: I don't like Agricola.... should i buy Le Havre?

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by Dungeonlord

My main concern is that there would be only one path to victory.I would like to have different strategies to win and not be forced by the game to do a bit of everything or ONLY one thing.... I would like to keep some freedom on how to play the game.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: I don't like Agricola.... should i buy Le Havre?

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by Deep Silver

They are different games, but do share a Uwe Rosenberg charateristic of having an expanding game space as the game proceeds. For this reason, people are often lost at what to do since so many options present themselves as the game progresses. If you don't like that about Agricola, you'll see it in LeHavre as well.

I personally really like LeHavre, but thought Agricola was just OK. There are several paths to victory in LeHavre and experience with the game makes them apparent. Experience will also show you how and when to block, when to sell a building and how to buy (not build) a ship. Timing is also an important part of the game. In a three player game over three rounds you'll have 3 actions, then 2 then another 2. The cycle then repeats. Setting up the round when you have 3 actions becomes important. Like other Uwe games, it comes down to efficiency of actions and resources and evaluating the game state for advantages. Great game.

Reply: Le Havre:: News:: Re: Le Havre Computer Game

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by Jesper85

Great way to learn this game, I find it a little hard to understand the whole thing.

Sometimes during single player, when I used one of my own buildings and go to the next turn, I would like to use a Town Building and get an alert "You can't use this building", despite I have the money / food for it... Why is that?

By the way, I thought that you had to play lesser turns for each round, than all 7 turns, as stated on the bord itself. There's something written like "START: 2" and "START: 1"...

Hope someone can clarify these things for me.

Thanks!

Reply: Le Havre:: News:: Re: Le Havre Computer Game

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by Ponton

The "start" stuff is about starting resources on the supply spaces on the game board. When a building tels you you cannot use it, then you surely cannot. Please check if you have all the required resources. You may think you can use a building when in fact you cannot. Ex. You want to smoke fish, but entering the Smokehouse you would have to pay the fish as entry fee leaving you with no fish to smoke. Stuff like that.

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Thread: Le Havre:: Rules:: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by Calmen

I know it is a noob question but in the rules it states that you should "shuffle the remaining standard buildings and divide them into 3 EQUALLY-SIZED piles. However, there are 14 buildings, so you can't sort them exactly equal. How should I sort them? 5-5-4?

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by davypi

You're either missing a card from your set or you've sorted them incorrectly. The number of buildings is divisible by three for all setups.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by Throknor

Or you did the setup incorrectly. Some jump in or out of the decks based on player count & long vs. short.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by Calmen

davypi wrote:

You're either missing a card from your set or you've sorted them incorrectly. The number of buildings is divisible by three for all setups.


Could someone please help me count them?

Building Firm 4, Building Firm 6 and Construction Firm starts on the city.

Sawmill, marketplace and Black Markethave the "start" icon so they also start on the city, right?

So, we have Fishery, Tannery, Abattoir, Colliery, Brickworks, Clay Mound, Steel Mill, Cokery, Smokehouse, Charcoal Kiln, Ironworks, Wharf, Shipping Line, Bakehouse. Total: 14.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by cesarpepe

Depending on the number of players, you are missing one of the cards marked with the start. Start by the way, does not mean that they belong to the city. That means that they are used as standard buildings for, either, the long version or the short version of the game. That depends on the check sign they have on the back of the card, whether it is full or empty. I don't know the number of players you're trying to setup the game for, but it seems to me that you're missing the marketplace (to complete the set of 15 standard buildings).

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Solo long game - "Equally distributed buildings"

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by louper

Assuming you're playing the long game:

Start in city: Building Firm 4, Building Firm 6, Construction Firm.

In building proposals: Marketplace, Shipping Line, Abattoir, Brickworks, Steel Mill, Tannery, Fishery, Smokehouse, Bakehouse, Clay Mound, Cokery, Charcoal Kiln, Wharf, Ironworks, Colliery. Total: 15.

Okay, so your issue is that you're looking at the ones that say "Start" in the lower right of the 1Player box on the back of the card - that "Start" icon is ONLY for the short game. Anything printed in the lower right of those boxes (checkmarks or Start) are only for the short game.

The Sawmill and Black Market are not used at all in the long solo game (no icon in the main part of the box). The Marketplace is in the Building Proposals.

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