New Image for Le Havre
↧
↧
New Image for Le Havre
↧
New Image for Le Havre
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by gillum
I have been assuming that this was in a long game.Were the starting offers limited to 2 Francs, 2 fish, 2 wood and 1 clay (and not the short game's 3 Francs, 3 fish, 3 wood, 2 clay, 1 iron, 1 grain and 1 cattle)?
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: Teachers of BGG: Le Havre as problem-solving tool?
by cwb1014
Great Idea. What grade level are you students? Can you post the problem you gave them? I'd love to try my hand a creating similar problems.↧
↧
Thread: Le Havre:: Rules:: Does a worker stay on the building after turn?
by Seth_Logan
Hi,We played 2 games of Le Havre this weekend. One thing bugs me and since I don't have the game to read the rules myself, I'd like to ask: does the worker actually stay on the building he occupies during his turn or is he taken off and returned (so the next player can use the building again)? The reason I ask is because we were taught the game by someone who got a few very important rules wrong that made the game frustratingly tight (can't replace food with gold).
The way we played a player leaves his worker on the building. This effectively meant that opening buildings were often blocked turn after turn and the game just didn't move on at all. And with only 2 actions a round I feel that this is way to harsh.
Cheers,
Seth Logan
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Does a worker stay on the building after turn?
Nope, he stays on until moved elsewhere.
No one can use the building until the worker moves. And the worker can’t reuse the building without moving to another building first.
No one can use the building until the worker moves. And the worker can’t reuse the building without moving to another building first.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Does a worker stay on the building after turn?
by grant5
Man, I know it is easier to just start a new thread than to quickly skim through the existing threads of the rules forum, but come on. There are at least three threads already in just the first page of the rules forum that address this very thing.↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
The part I am most confused about is the scores that you posted. If, conceivably, all three of you managed to hit some perfect storm where the building resources lined up with what the town built as well so that all of the building came out by the end of Round 12, and no ships were being built, then feeding just was not going to happen. And, with all of your resources going into the buildings, you would not have much left to get the ships out in time to pick up a lot of points there, so scores in the 220's seem outrageously high to me under those circumstances.
I keep seeing the replies that all rules were followed properly, but unless I saw it happen directly in front of me, I won't be able to believe it.
My friends and I made a few errors our first time playing this, as we kind of do with all new games. I just don't understand how the scenario you spelled out is possible. However, I was glad that I got to check back in today and see that this thread is still getting a little traction.
I keep seeing the replies that all rules were followed properly, but unless I saw it happen directly in front of me, I won't be able to believe it.
My friends and I made a few errors our first time playing this, as we kind of do with all new games. I just don't understand how the scenario you spelled out is possible. However, I was glad that I got to check back in today and see that this thread is still getting a little traction.
↧
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by cheng
Add me to the list of people that believes this could not have happened if they were following the rules correctly. I just don't see it happening.↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by murksofus
Mokey D Luffy wrote:
The part I am most confused about is the scores that you posted. If, conceivably, all three of you managed to hit some perfect storm where the building resources lined up with what the town built as well so that all of the buildings came out by the end of Round 12, and no ships were being built, then feeding just was not going to happen. And, with all of your resources going into the buildings, you would not have much left to get the ships out in time to pick up a lot of points there, so scores in the 220's seem outrageously high to me under those circumstances.
I keep seeing the replies that all rules were followed properly, but unless I saw it happen directly in front of me, I won't be able to believe it.
My friends and I made a few errors our first time playing this, as we kind of do with all new games. I just don't understand how the scenario you spelled out is possible. However, I was glad that I got to check back in today and see that this thread is still getting a little traction.
I keep seeing the replies that all rules were followed properly, but unless I saw it happen directly in front of me, I won't be able to believe it.
My friends and I made a few errors our first time playing this, as we kind of do with all new games. I just don't understand how the scenario you spelled out is possible. However, I was glad that I got to check back in today and see that this thread is still getting a little traction.
Yeah, I don't know at this point. I've read every comment and the rulebook over quite a few times. I've discussed it with the other players. Nobody seems to find anything we did wrong. Granted, we didn't really build ships much at all (I think everyone had a wooden ship and 2 people had a luxury liner, that's it), and I think the first time anyone used the Shipping Line I bought was in the "last action" thing after the final round.
I may have been mistaken that all buildings were built by round 12. Perhaps it was round 13 or 14. I just remember there were at least 4-5 rounds at the end where there were no buildings to build, so all we were doing was just optimizing our actions, which to us was incredibly boring. That was my main gripe with the game.
I'll just have to try it again, go for an all-out building strategy and see if I can't finish all 3 stacks in 12-14 rounds. I think it's very doable.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by Thunkd
I'll ask again. Can you please give an example of what all the players did for several turns?If you explain how you gathered resources and food and then how you built, we'll very quickly be able to spot any mistakes you made. It's all well and good for you to say you did everything correctly, but I don't see how you fed correctly if you didn't have ships and spent the majority of your actions gathering resources and building.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by gillum
murksofus wrote:
I'll just have to try it again, go for an all-out building strategy and see if I can't finish all 3 stacks in 12-14 rounds. I think it's very doable.
If you do this, it would be interesting if you could keep an approximate record of what happens (e.g., which buildings are built in each round, which resources are acquired when, etc.).
↧
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by IndyNate
murksofus wrote:
(I think everyone had a wooden ship and 2 people had a luxury liner, that's it)
Are you saying the only ships owned by players were wooden ships and luxury liners? Sounds like you're doing the feeding phase incorrectly. Is everyone feeding at the end of each round? By game end, the cost to feed is pretty expensive.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by murksofus
IndyNate wrote:
murksofus wrote:
(I think everyone had a wooden ship and 2 people had a luxury liner, that's it)
Are you saying the only ships owned by players were wooden ships and luxury liners? Sounds like you're doing the feeding phase incorrectly. Is everyone feeding at the end of each round? By game end, the cost to feed is pretty expensive.
Well I often went for cattle and used the Abattoir (I think that's right) to change it into meat, often many cattle at a time, so I often had enough food for the next 2-3 rounds. I also baked a lot of bread, trying to do as much as I could with one action, saving up grain and cattle until I could change a bunch of them (either grain or cattle, never both) into food at the same time.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by louper
murksofus wrote:
IndyNate wrote:
murksofus wrote:
(I think everyone had a wooden ship and 2 people had a luxury liner, that's it)
Are you saying the only ships owned by players were wooden ships and luxury liners? Sounds like you're doing the feeding phase incorrectly. Is everyone feeding at the end of each round? By game end, the cost to feed is pretty expensive.
Well I often went for cattle and used the Abattoir (I think that's right) to change it into meat, often many cattle at a time, so I often had enough food for the next 2-3 rounds. I also baked a lot of bread, trying to do as much as I could with one action, saving up grain and cattle until I could change a bunch of them (either grain or cattle, never both) into food at the same time.
How many cattle are you possibly getting? It comes up once a round and you start with one. You can get extra ones via the Marketplace, but that's spending an action you should be using to build. Where is all the cattle coming from?
(Just to double check, when there's a harvest, you know you only get a single cow at most, right?)
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by IndyNate
murksofus wrote:
IndyNate wrote:
murksofus wrote:
(I think everyone had a wooden ship and 2 people had a luxury liner, that's it)
Are you saying the only ships owned by players were wooden ships and luxury liners? Sounds like you're doing the feeding phase incorrectly. Is everyone feeding at the end of each round? By game end, the cost to feed is pretty expensive.
Well I often went for cattle and used the Abattoir (I think that's right) to change it into meat, often many cattle at a time, so I often had enough food for the next 2-3 rounds. I also baked a lot of bread, trying to do as much as I could with one action, saving up grain and cattle until I could change a bunch of them (either grain or cattle, never both) into food at the same time.
By round 10 you will need something like 50 food/francs (per player) in the process of feeding. You would need to allocate quite a few actions in order to get by on cattle, bread and 1 wooden ship.
↧
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by gillum
louper wrote:
How many cattle are you possibly getting? It comes up once a round and you start with one. You can get extra ones via the Marketplace, but that's spending an action you should be using to build. Where is all the cattle coming from?
Start with one?
In the regular (non-shortened) game, each player starts with 5 Francs and 1 coal, and the starting offers are 2 Francs, 2 fish, 2 wood and 1 clay. No cattle.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by louper
gillum wrote:
louper wrote:
How many cattle are you possibly getting? It comes up once a round and you start with one. You can get extra ones via the Marketplace, but that's spending an action you should be using to build. Where is all the cattle coming from?
Start with one?
In the regular (non-shortened) game, each player starts with 5 Francs and 1 coal, and the starting offers are 2 Francs, 2 fish, 2 wood and 1 clay. No cattle.
Oops. Just mis-remembered. Well, that just goes to make my point even more.
Thanks for the correction.
↧
Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: All buildings built early in 3p game. Need advice
by Ponton
Oliver, are you playing the rounds correctly? Is every player taking an 7 actions per round, or do you play (as the rules say) 7 actions total divided up between the players?(ex. 3 players play round 1 as: a-b-c-a-b-c-a end of round)
↧
