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    by Thunkd

    Yes, it will issue the loan, take the money needed to finish feeding. And if that's not enough, it'll take out another loan and keep on going until you fully pay off your food debt.

    At a certain point in your Le Havre development you'll start getting the loan jujitsu and making plans along the lines of "If I use the fish to feed myself I'll have one coin left over but I still have to pay interest on my loans and then I'll be out of money and I can't use that building that Bob's got. Drat! Hey wait a minute, if I use the coin to feed myself, I'll be broke, and I'll be forced to take out another loan to pay the interest on my existing loans, and then I'll have enough money left over to afford Tim's even better building!"

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    by lostphd

    That's the Canadian market for you! I'm now sorry I didn't buy two copies when I had the chance in Toronto - Some day I may need the replacement parts.

    Last thought would be the Hairy Tarantula - but my guess is that if everyone else has sold out, so have they. We're lucky to have three or four decent retailers of board games in Toronto - but we're still, in Canada, at the end of a long supply chain.

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    by testcranker

    The loan gives you money that you use to pay your food bill. The act of taking a loan doesn't pay the food bill, paying the money/proceeds from the loan does.


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    by mcmoe316

    Both are great games as is Ora et Labora (mentioned in the thread). I would favor Caylus over Le Havre simply because I don't like the loan mechanics in Le Havre. Great game, just needs to fix the loan mechanics. If borrow 10 dollars from the bank and pay 1 dollar interest, logic would say that when I borrow $10,000, I should be paying $1,000 in interest, not $1.

    Ora is simply a great game without the feeding panic that comes along with the Gric and Le Havre. In Ora, the feeding phase is simply, how much better off am I going to be after the phase, not Oh Shit!

    Now Caylus is probably the heaviest strategy out there for worker placement. The big problem with Caylus is when you are playing with players of various skill levels. The problem is not nearly as drastic as Puerto Rico where sitting next to the newbie can almost always skew the game in ones favor.

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    by Mokey D Luffy

    Well, it is good to see that there is a general consensus out there. When reading the rules, it just said that you are given a loan card, not that you use it to pay. We thought that the penalty was having to pay interest and having to pay back five for the four that you get. We thought it was strange, but hadn't played before so just went with it.

    Knowing how that works now will make our next games different, but probably better also. Thanks for the clarification everyone.

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    by asmiles

    Also note that the loan interest is 1 franc total each time you hit that space. The cost is the same if you have 1 loan or 20. Paying them back by game's end is another matter.

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    by Icelom

    lostphd wrote:

    That's the Canadian market for you! I'm now sorry I didn't buy two copies when I had the chance in Toronto - Some day I may need the replacement parts.

    Last thought would be the Hairy Tarantula - but my guess is that if everyone else has sold out, so have they. We're lucky to have three or four decent retailers of board games in Toronto - but we're still, in Canada, at the end of a long supply chain.


    We only have the one shop here in Saskatoon it does have great selection and the owner is very helpful and it generally carries everything i have ever wanted. Le Havre appears to be completely sold out in Canada (yay)

    However after long research i found an american site that was selling the game for a decent price and its shipping was not to insane, i still ended up paying allot more then i wanted but no where near the $120 i was finding elsewhere.

    Thanks to those who responded trying to help me find a copy in Canada, the community on the geek is fantastic.


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    by UnknownParkerBrother

    Icelom wrote:

    We only have the one shop here in Saskatoon it does have great selection and the owner is very helpful and it generally carries everything i have ever wanted. Le Havre appears to be completely sold out in Canada (yay)


    Not sure where you've been looking, it's in stock at both Meeplemart.com and Fungamescafe.com, two of the main Canadian sites.

    http://www.meeplemart.com/products/le-havre-1
    http://fungamescafe.com/fgcIndex.php?command=showgame&gameId...

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    by Icelom

    UnknownParkerBrother wrote:

    Icelom wrote:

    We only have the one shop here in Saskatoon it does have great selection and the owner is very helpful and it generally carries everything i have ever wanted. Le Havre appears to be completely sold out in Canada (yay)


    Not sure where you've been looking, it's in stock at both Meeplemart.com and Fungamescafe.com, two of the main Canadian sites.

    http://www.meeplemart.com/products/le-havre-1
    http://fungamescafe.com/fgcIndex.php?command=showgame&gameId...


    thanks for the post, no i have not used those sites will add them to my list, to bad i already ordered it but the price i paid was fairly close.




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  • 03/05/13--04:16: New Image for Le Havre
  • by paesibassi

    Solo short game initial setup

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  • 03/06/13--13:53: New Image for Le Havre
  • by McGray79

    My Shipping Crates

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  • 03/06/13--14:30: New Image for Le Havre
  • by McGray79

    My Shipping Crates

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  • 03/06/13--14:47: New Image for Le Havre
  • by McGray79

    My Shipping Crates

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  • 03/06/13--14:53: New Image for Le Havre
  • by McGray79

    My Shipping Crates

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    by azuravian

    I love hearing stories like this. These are the types of companies that continue to earn my money.

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    by patox

    I played Le Havre twice now and it seems like a pretty solid game. I don't think it will knock Agricola off my personal top spot, but we'll see.

    With the scores in the hundreds, I feel the game might benefit greatly from a scoring tracker. And the way the game plays out, it won't require much additional maintenance (it's also something to do while other players are doing their actions).

    The two games I've played, I had no idea where the scores would end up.

    Of course, I could add everything up each turn, because there are no hidden points in the game. All the points are in front of each player. But this can really drag out a game.

    A scoring tracker like in Carcassonne or Caylus would definitely help to gauge your progress and keep things interesting.

    For example, if I know a player is 20 points behind me, I might do more to block their action.

    Any thoughts?

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    by ldsdbomber

    It's easy enough to do and will save you fannying about counting at the end, but I'm not convinced it will be useful to help you "blocking their action", once you get to grips with the game you will see the chokepoints naturally, and it's more about making sure you get in the right buildings at the right time and blocking when it's obviously good. What I mean is I don't think there are occasions when you need to see that you are 20 points behind rather than 2, if there is an action that's capable of him reeling in 20 odd coins to catch you up, you will know about it without needing a scoretracker, there are only a handful of buys and/or actions that this is regarding, but I still think for maintenance of the bits, a score track is a nice thing to have

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    by davypi

    I'm not sure a scoring tracker would help. The upkeep alone from an iron boat is worth a hell of a lot more than owning the courthouse. 6 Steel is worth 48 points shipped, but its worth 72 points if you can get the first two lux liners. Like Chess, a position can be worth than its actual score.

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    by LSMB

    The iOS version keeps the current score, and I do like it. I think it is a good idea....but as davypi has alluded to, you have to be careful as it could be very deceiving. Prior to shipping, one player could be far behind, but catch up quickly in the last couple of turns.

    However, with experience I don't think this would be a problem.

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    by Karlsen

    Not sure I see the point personally, the vast majority of the points always come in the last round or two of play, e.g. in a 3 player game in round 18 and some in round 17/

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