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Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Questions about Wharfs and occupy the same building twice in a round

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by grant5

pazu wrote:

Refer to the rules:
"Buildings may not be sold and then bought again in the same game turn."

May I bought it and then sell it again in the same game turn for entering the building again?


Yes, you may buy and then sell in the same turn, but not the other way around. The reason is so a player with a lot of money can't completely monopolize a building and use it again and again. If you sell, you have to give all the other players a turn where they could buy it before you have the chance to buy it again. This is also why you can only sell buildings on your turn, unless the game is forcing you to make a payment.

Thread: Le Havre:: General:: "Special" edition includes fixes?

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by fnord3125

I just got Le Havre today, and I got the version that includes Le Grand Hameau. Does this edition have the typos and misprints fixed? The cards I've been able to locate seem to be corrected, but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing anything...

And, on a side note: how are Lookout Games when it comes to component replacements? I have one (so far... hopefully no more!) minor quality issue... two cards in one deck were stuck together, and after separating them the face of one of them is kind of messed up, though still useable.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Questions about Wharfs and occupy the same building twice in a round

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by Ponton

grant5 wrote:

This is also why you can only sell buildings on your turn, unless the game is forcing you to make a payment.


This is an expert rule only. The normal game rules do, in fact, allow you to sell your buildings at any time, so even at the end of your opponent's turn, before it is your turn.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: "Special" edition includes fixes?

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by jqgamer

I noticed this too. I swapped out the cards anyway just to be extra sure. :)

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Questions about Wharfs and occupy the same building twice in a round

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by Chipacabra

Basically, when players realize you can do that, it's time to start using the expert rule.
The variation we use is that you can only sell outside your own turn to cover wages or interest.

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: "Special" edition includes fixes?

Reply: Le Havre:: General:: Re: "Special" edition includes fixes?

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by fnord3125

jqgamer wrote:

I noticed this too. I swapped out the cards anyway just to be extra sure. :)

Well, I wasn't even just talking about the replacement cards in the Grand Hameau set, but also the few others that, from what I can gather from BGG threads, had some issues in previous printings.

Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Questions about Wharfs and occupy the same building twice in a round

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by grant5

Ponton wrote:

grant5 wrote:

This is also why you can only sell buildings on your turn, unless the game is forcing you to make a payment.


This is an expert rule only. The normal game rules do, in fact, allow you to sell your buildings at any time, so even at the end of your opponent's turn, before it is your turn.

Yes but I think we both know the only reason this is considered an "expert" rule is because it was overlooked and left out of the original rules, and nobody wants to modify the original rules as written. Really this should be an errata, since there is absolutely no reason a player would sell a building outside their turn when not forced to pay something, except to take advantage of selling and buying the same building back. And that is clearly not the intent Uwe had in mind when he created the game.

Thread: Le Havre:: Strategy:: No build strategy

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by Zark

OK didn't start out with it in mind but the player before me took the Franc offer, bought the Market Place and Building firm so I used the market place to take an iron and clay with the intention of building the sawmill so I could sell it later to help buy a wooden ship. However when I looked at the special buildings the cannery was available (1 iron and 3 meat to 14 francs or 1 iron and 4 smoked fish to 18 francs)so I decided to start collecting fish and cattle and iron.

While I collected resources I also sat on the market to make sure that no one moved the cannery from the top of the pile (which had the added benefit of negating the value of its purchase with the building firm!)

I just managed to hang on without taking a loan until the cannery came out, accumulating a couple of iron and some fish, cattle and grain along the way. The smokehouse hadn't come out so I had to use the slaughterhouse which had to convert 3 cattle (leaving me 2 to breed) to meat. I then used the cannery to convert 3 meat and an iron to 14 cash and bought a wooden ship.
The next special building to come out was the cattle market (7 cattle to 21 francs), followed by the inn (4 wood and 4 grain to 12 francs). I spent the rest of the game collecting cows, wood, grain, iron and fish, smoking the fish and converting them all to francs via the special buildings.
By the mid game I had no buildings just a wooden and iron ship that I had bought
I did use a wharf to build a second iron ship and started buying buildings in the second half of the game but I didn't build a single building in the whole game. I also didn't use the shipping line

I won with 168 points (4 player)

What I like about Le Havre is that you have to keep your eyes open for oportunities as they present themselves

Reply: Le Havre:: Strategy:: Re: No build strategy

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by Cromeyellow

awesome! Just goes to show that there are multiple strategies to win with. And only by looking outside the box can you find them all.

Thread: Le Havre:: Rules:: Value and Cost clarification...

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by Kain6

On page 5, the last paragraph of the page goes like:

"Buildings: ...... In most cases the purchase price is the building's value; If this is not the case the purchase price is indicated separately (as 'Cost') beneath the value....."

Now, as I get it, it means that you buy a building by paying its VALUE (and you can sell it at half its VALUE).
But in the case the Building also has a COST, you pay the COST (and NOT the VALUE) to buy it, but when you sell it you still get half its VALUE.

Am I right?

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Reply: Le Havre:: Rules:: Re: Value and Cost clarification...

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by ldsdbomber

correct. It's generally the buildings and ships that give variable value depending on other factors (when you buy them or what buildings you have with them) that have a separate (and IIRC always higher) cost than the value (which counts to your franc total at game end, or gives you 50% return if you sell to the town).

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by Simulacrum

A trieszti hajó az Osztrák-Magyar Monarchia zászlajával (Triest ship with merchant ensign of Austria-Hungary)

Thread: Le Havre:: Rules:: Selling Luxury Yacht or MS Dagmar

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by Hermjard

If I sell the Luxury Yacht or the MS Dagmar, where does it go to? Back to the city, because it's a special building? Or to the appropriate ship pile, because it says, it counts "as iron ship" or "luxury liner" respectively?
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